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back to hidden truth Las Vegas shooter

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we've got a new episode of Las Vegas

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shooter for you this is primarily in

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light of the anniversary that all of you

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are aware of I'm sure October 1st will

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be the one-year anniversary of the

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shooting

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so we're dropped in this episode today

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we're also gonna drop another one next

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week this week we've got a great guest

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and I think this episode is all about

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paying homage to the citizen journalists

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who've been out there covering the Las

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Vegas shooting when the mainstream media

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dropped the ball on it and there's a big

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community on YouTube and on our Facebook

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page etc so many of you probably seen

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the name Ron Burgundy he's done a

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hundred and thirty-five videos on

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YouTube following every intimate detail

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of the shooting he's read everything

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that's come out from Las Vegas

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metropolitan Police Department gone

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through the body cam videos etc so he's

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really done amazing work to help the

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rest of us in covering the story also

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next week we'll be covering the events

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that were taking place in Las Vegas a

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lot of you may be familiar with the man

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that goes by the name of sleep

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deprivation next week about all the

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goings on in Vegas on Monday let me

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cover for you some of those things that

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are going on for the people that are

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gonna be in Vegas for this very

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important one-year anniversary of the

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shooting there's gonna be a sunrise

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remembrance ceremony on October 1st and

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there's gonna be Clark County

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firefighters metropolitan police

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officers officials from Vegas strong

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resiliency Center they're hosting a 6:30

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a.m. ceremony at the Clark County

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Government Center amphitheater and

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that's at 500 South Korean Central

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that'll be the first remembrance of the

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day there's going to be a dedication

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ceremony at the Las Vegas Healing Garden

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that's a new remembrance wall dedication

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it begins at 6:30 p.m. that's located at

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10:15 South Casino Center Boulevard they

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say that the strip marquee tribute on

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October 1st will begin at 10:01 it'll

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include properties throughout the Las

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Vegas Valley the welcome to Fabulous Las

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Vegas sign will go dark at 10:01 p.m. on

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October 1st there'll be a reading of the

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58 names ceremony on October 1st the

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name of each victim will be read at the

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Las Vegas healing garden that's at that

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10 15 South Casino Center Boulevard that

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tribute will begin at 10:05 p.m. the

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moment the 2017 attack began and there

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will be lots of officials there from

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Metro and various charities etc so it's

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going to be a sad day in Vegas and a day

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of remembrance but a day of Vegas strong

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in resilience as evidenced in part by

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the tremendous work that their hockey

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team did last year they played an

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exhibition game on October 1st they had

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a tremendous ceremony at their opening

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game and went on to play in the Stanley

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Cup and really became the face of Vegas

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strong for the city of Las Vegas and

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getting past this and then next week as

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I said we're gonna be having additional

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interviews and coverage of that day I

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was in Vegas last week doing a show

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about the one-year anniversary

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it's done by Eric Bowling's new show

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called America on CR TV it is available

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now if you go to CR tv.com you do have

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to subscribe if you want to see a clip

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from that you can go to our YouTube

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channel and you'll see a clip from that

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but Eric Bolling has got a great new

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show and he did a really cool when your

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anniversary show that I was very happy

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to be part of and before we get to the

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interview I want to talk about another

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podcast that has been covering the Las

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Vegas shooting I appeared on it a couple

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of months ago he's been great about

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promoting our show and I want to promote

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his and suggest that you guys check it

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out it's the confessionals it's hosted

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alleged conspiracies so he did a really

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incredible episode a few weeks ago on

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September 11th he aired an interview

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with the former CIA asset

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Susan Lindauer and she discloses that

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she and also our government new leading

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up to that fateful day she just goes

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what she knew leading up to that fateful

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day and what happened to her post 9/11

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that resulted in her being jailed under

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the Patriot Act you can also check out

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the episodes that he did on the Las

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Mandalay Bay The Untold I'd witness

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stories episode 55 called Mandalay Bay

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what happens in Vegas gets erased in

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Vegas in episode 62 the room under

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Stephen paddock so you can check out all

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that at the confessionals he's up horses

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revver you listen to podcast

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great guy and had me on his show a few

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weeks so I want to give a shout out to

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him okay so here we are with our episode

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with Ron Burgundy which really goes

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through in detail all of these

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allegations and all this evidence of

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multiple shooters and we try to figure

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it out and still move forward and trying

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to figure out what really happened that

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night because we still really don't know

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there is a large group of people that

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are have been tracking the Las Vegas

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shooting now for

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quite a long time a big online community

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primarily on YouTube and I know you've

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done over a hundred videos on YouTube

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following this and there's quite a

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community that's been built up there

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trying to figure out much as this show

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has been trying to do what really

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happened that night because there are so

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many mysteries about it but let's start

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by having you tell us just what

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interested you in the subject to begin

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with well what what really got me

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interested in this subject was obviously

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waking up that Monday morning and seeing

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what had happened and then I had made my

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way to YouTube and watched a few videos

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and there's a video out there that was

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put out by the company liveleak and it

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was a video recorded from basically

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right there in the Killzone of the

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concert there in the front row and it

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showed a you know had a lot of victims

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in it and whatnot and it just really you

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know like everyone else in this

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community it just hit me close to my

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heart and I just felt so bad I started

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reading more about it watching more

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about it and that's when the question

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started popping it up the things that

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didn't make sense to me and it's all

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really sprouted from there I'm I'm an IT

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guy in real life and so I I'm very

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regimented as far as I need answers to

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questions generally you know I need a

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plus B equals C and that's where I went

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and I couldn't couldn't make it add up

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and I'm really still not completely

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added up correct and when you say

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community what community are you talking

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about well I mean the YouTube community

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it's uh like you said it is a it's a big

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community out there on YouTube that's

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following this it's getting smaller

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every day but yeah that's a pretty

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tight-knit community out there that

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we're all just looking and and

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investigating the best we can and trying

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to get answers you know but have you

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ever been fascinated with an event like

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this before no not really I mean I you

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never dealt with YouTube prior to this

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shooting not really not in any capacity

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JFK what really happened well yeah

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that's a loaded question now who knows

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actually went against the wrong people

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that's another whole story then is that

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the military industrial complex or is

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that the Mafia or what well yeah it's

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you know it's like you know he said you

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know do not be deceived by the I forget

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how he worded it but he wouldn't get

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somebody someone did not like him saying

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what he was saying so that's my personal

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opinion but you know I don't think it

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was just Oswald no so you go by the name

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Ron Burgundy on YouTube and why is it

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that you feel the need to use a alias

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well I as I said I never was on YouTube

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prior to this event and when I started

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you know I had to have a screen name to

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access some of the videos because of the

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age restrictions so I created an account

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I just created the most outlandish name

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I could think of I'm a big Will Ferrel

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fan just made the name and started

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watching videos I never planned on

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making videos and as I started making

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them I started getting more popular and

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people started watching and now I'm kind

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change it but it's kind of hard at this

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movie oh yeah absolutely I'm a usual

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Farrell fan so you know I'm just

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carrying the flag proudly now what did

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you set age restriction what do you mean

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YouTube will place age restrictions on

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graphic videos with or without you doing

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it sometimes I'll just place it on you

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or the Creator can place an age

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restriction on it too which requires you

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to have a youtube account to be able to

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view it I see you know the reviewer

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restricting viewership of your videos to

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but when I started watching a lot of the

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videos I wanted to watch required you to

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prove you were 18 and have a login so

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that's where he's not created mr.

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intention intended to end up in the

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point I'm at now so so from the get-go

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inconsistencies obviously and I still

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just wasn't I know I didn't I couldn't

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just you know easily say you know the

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one plus two equals three with anything

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I looked at you know I started I started

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with the live leaked video started

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identifying the victims in that and then

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that arose me to questions I started

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looking at the room leaked photos and

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that brought up a bunch of questions and

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the LVM PD puts out it creates more

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questions than it does answers anything

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to me and it's it's really it's it's

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bothersome is what it is it's really

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bothersome

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yeah well that's precisely what led us

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to do the deep dive into the shooting

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because we were months out at the time

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that we started it and it was just

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unbelievable to me that we could have

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the largest mass shooting in American

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history and know so little and have so

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many questions and have so many things

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not add up so we're on the same page in

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that regard but I do have to say over

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time as we've covered it and as more

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things have come out and now the second

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police report etc things are in my view

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anyway starting to come together toward

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an answer and in my opinion it is

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pointing to lone wolf

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shooter you know acting alone no

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apparent conspiracy as far as terrorism

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goes you know the ISIS thing is

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certainly very suspicious as far as them

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claiming responsibility when they really

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have never been proven wrong when they

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have claimed responsibility but you know

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we're not seeing really much beyond that

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as far as Isis connection so where

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things are kind of lying for me is you

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know starting to come into focus that

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we've got a guy who really snapped oh

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you know perhaps over a long period of

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time

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but as far as the loss of money and so

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on and being a narcissist and perhaps a

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psychopath like his father and perhaps

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wanting to outdo his father etc so as

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you know look it's never easy to find a

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solid explanation for something this

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bizarre because how could you ever

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explain something this bizarre why

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somebody would do something this bizarre

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but unfortunately we've got lots of

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events in in in the country's past of

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people doing unbelievable and bizarre

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things and this simply may be another so

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that's where I've been seeing things

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going where are you seeing things going

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in your analysis of this well you know I

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can admit you know I started off you

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know on a scale of one to ten ten being

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tinfoil hat zero being you know lone

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shooter I probably started off somewhere

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in the middle and then I slowly started

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working my way to zero I'll be the first

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to admit it and because everything you

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know things did like you say come into

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view a little better and then we started

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getting the data dumps and the one thing

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that really changed the way I was

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feeling was when we got all the 911

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calls and I released a video about the

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9-1-1 calls and and it's not about the

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individual cause it was just strictly

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about statistics of the calls and once I

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was able to you know put a number and

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quantify what we were hearing in the

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calls and how many we heard and the

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order they released them it really

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brought up more questions for me and if

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you and what I mean by that is is the

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first week they released like five

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hundred calls and then I noticed in

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those five hundred calls there was a

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15-minute time segment that no calls

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were brought out it was from 11:15 to

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11:30 not a single call was in that 15

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minute block we had at least 30 in every

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other block every other 15-minute

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increment but none was in that the

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following week Lombardo get selected

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that Wednesday he releases another set

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of 500 calls and this is then here comes

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all the 11:15 to 11:30 s in there

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but they're all mixed together there's

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there's no timestamp and there's

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timestamps on them but they weren't in

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any order when they released them so

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what I did is I started going through

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them and documenting them and with the

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timestamp on where they were from and a

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brief description about each call and I

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got to notice in between 11 and 12 that

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night when as you know there was a lot

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of reports of gun fire up and down the

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strip you know the numbers I came up

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with were just astronomical to me to be

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purely by chance in any get of you know

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any given set of numbers the statistics

371
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are just way too high compared to what

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we should have been seeing I know a

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certain amount of those calls came in

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were from panic but I don't believe we

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see as much panic I mean we see as many

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calls as we had and what I'm getting at

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just to kind of put numbers in your head

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between 11:00 p.m. and a 12:00 a.m. that

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night there was 626 calls that came in 2

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LB MPD of those 626 257 of them were

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reporting an active shooter or panic at

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another hotel

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so that's 41 percent of the calls for t

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panic okay 157 calls

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77 of them actually said to the operator

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I heard gunshots

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not my friend heard gunshots not we

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think we heard I heard gunshots 77 it's

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30% of the callers claiming there was

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shooting going on 30% of them claimed to

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have heard the shots and there was a

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real consistency on the number of shots

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they claimed to have heard is anywhere

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from two to four was the most common

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numbers and like I say I just broke it

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down in a straight statistical look at

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it and I find it hard to just write off

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77 individual people that have claimed

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to have heard gunshots there's no doubt

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a certain amount of them were wrong and

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panicked but yeah well you know and I've

402
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seen that video and everybody should

403
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check out that video where you really

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break down the numbers and we thank you

405
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for spending all the time that you did

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to to track those calls and listen to

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all those call

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and so let's talk in a little bit more

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detail about them so when we talk about

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the 77 phone calls the this is somebody

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calling 911 they heard gunshots tell us

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tell us what kind of pattern you see

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within those 77 in other words are they

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mostly coming from a particular location

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etc no it's very much patterned in the

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actual cause not and what's happened is

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when you had one call come in they you

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know they originally it started off the

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the first one you really got to hearing

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was New York New York and when the first

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call came in from New York New York you

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would see 15 more calls come in from New

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York New York within the next three

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minutes then you would get a call from

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the Bellagio and then within you know 15

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more calls right behind it coming from

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the Bellagio so once you got that the

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calls weren't spread out based on hotels

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once you got a hotel on the hook you

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started getting all the calls from that

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hotel and so I was thinking maybe that

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is just panic radiating up the strip but

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I've also charted those calls to charted

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the 77 calls and put their location and

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I broke it down in a ten-minute

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increment of that hour and there's no

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real rhyme or reason to the pattern of

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it going up the strip like you know

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you'd like I'd like to see all the calls

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from 11 to 11 10 being at the Tropicana

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in New York New York area but they're

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not you know there's some of those or up

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farther at the Aria over the Bellagio so

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there's really no pattern of radiating

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up the strip and and that's what's

446
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really bothered me the most I was almost

447
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working my way back all the way till to

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Patek you know maybe was the lone gunman

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until these 9-1-1 calls came out and the

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random order they released it and I

451
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still don't know it still may be panic I

452
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just I find it hard to believe and I and

453
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I have a close personal friend that was

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in Planet Hollywood that night that you

455
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know swears on his children he smelled

456
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gun smoke and heard gunshots at about

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11:05 that night and that's you know

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over a mile and a half away from the

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block or from the Mandalay Bay okay and

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and people are gonna want to hear these

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calls so we're going we're gonna make

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sure that we we have them up on our

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website so that people can deserve these

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calls

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so what would be your theory as to why

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there was 77 reports of someone hearing

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gunshots in the 11 o'clock hour when

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paddock stopped shooting at 10:15 well

469
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yeah that's the that's the answer

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everyone I was really like cuz I don't

471
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have a theory for it doesn't make sense

472
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there there's no there's no reporting's

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of you know casings anywhere no one was

474
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injured you know I get all that there

475
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,480
there is no evidence suggest anything

476
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:32,400
happened other than these 911 one calls

477
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an actual you know whip witness accounts

478
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of what's going on you know there's also

479
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several very believable people that gave

480
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interviews during that time or about

481
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that time that you know there again I

482
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it's it really comes down to what do you

483
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believe or not and I don't know what

484
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happened in that hour but I do believe

485
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something happened some people will say

486
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oh those gunshots were you know the

487
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rotating door Bellagio making it loud

488
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you know wacky noise and or it was chair

489
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rails or guardrail things falling over

490
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inside the Bellagio I know I don't know

491
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hey I just find it hard to believe you

492
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know like there's a one lady that's real

493
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:18,930
famous about it miss Renee downs her

494
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husband was a you know career marine and

495
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he heard the shots he says he did I just

496
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can't believe a marine would identify

497
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the hearing shots wrong but you know if

498
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anything's possible but that combined

499
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with the other 77 people that all say

500
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they heard shots it's it's really hard

501
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to believe it's it's it's hard to get my

502
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head around it well in your youtube

503
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community of people that have been

504
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following this religiously and intensely

505
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what are some of the theories that

506
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they're putting out there we going right

507
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oh it ranges from you know it's a full

508
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spectrum and I'm a no means I'm if

509
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:01,410
anything closer to the lone shooter then

510
00:22:07,070 --> 00:22:04,170
the you know it was all done by Isis for

511
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:07,080
sure you know there's crazy thoughts at

512
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Pete you know they're some of the

513
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theories of

514
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for that you know in that 11 o'clock

515
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hour maybe that was a distraction to try

516
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to draw police away from the hotel

517
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sometimes heard people say you know

518
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maybe that was blanks and you know maybe

519
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this maybe that you know a distraction I

520
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guess I could believe I mean I really

521
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:25,530
have no good answer of what it could

522
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have been you know we have one of the

523
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gentlemen that was you know went on

524
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:35,490
Jason Goodman show Joe was talking about

525
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you know he saw shell casings in the

526
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Tropicana parking lot and at about 11:15

527
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or so I believe and you know we had a

528
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lot going in on in that hour to you know

529
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:47,580
not only is that the panic being

530
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reported all over the strip if you look

531
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at the different events that happened in

532
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:52,710
that one hour wow there's a whole lot of

533
00:22:57,170 --> 00:22:54,810
going on you know just between the

534
00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:57,180
breach and you know the guy seen running

535
00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:59,880
across the valet at the valet roof at

536
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:01,860
the Tropicana you know there's just

537
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:04,440
there's so much going on in that time it

538
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just it's really hard for me to believe

539
00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:09,600
that it's all just panic you know and

540
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:11,670
for me one of the more believable calls

541
00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:13,890
that you hear reports is not a 9-1-1

542
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:15,960
call it all it come across the scanner

543
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:18,510
medics we're reporting taking gunshots

544
00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:20,370
i'm outside of the Tropicana

545
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:23,340
these are medics so I mean you know I

546
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:24,690
don't take it for what it's worth that's

547
00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:26,940
pretty believable to me so but I don't

548
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,470
know what happened I mean no one does

549
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:30,720
well and you've been critical of

550
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:32,130
Lombardo we've been in critical of

551
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:33,780
Lombardo and the police handling of this

552
00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:36,410
and how they've released information

553
00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:39,780
absence I'm sure is aware that what

554
00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:41,820
you've been referring to these data

555
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:43,380
dumps that they've been doing once a

556
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:45,090
week pursuant to the court order and

557
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:48,170
rather than putting them out in some

558
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:50,700
method that makes sense and explained

559
00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:52,590
with the table of contents and some

560
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:54,030
context to everything they'd just been

561
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:56,130
dumping stuff causing it you know

562
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:57,930
forcing everybody to sift through it on

563
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:02,880
their own right so but you know within

564
00:24:10,670 --> 00:24:06,330
all that that's where you've been able

565
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,680
to find tons of phone calls not just in

566
00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:12,000
the 11 o'clock hour I'd imagine in the

567
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,590
10 o'clock hour oh yeah there are

568
00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:15,360
they're everywhere absolutely absolutely

569
00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:17,550
I concentrated most of mine on that 11

570
00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:19,470
o'clock hour but no there's there's

571
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:21,630
crazy calls up and down and it's crazy

572
00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:22,620
calls it to in the more

573
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:25,590
that night you know it's so there's all

574
00:24:31,130 --> 00:24:27,930
that information released a couple

575
00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:31,140
questions one has the have the police

576
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:33,030
anywhere in the police report and any

577
00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:37,770
other press conferences acknowledged any

578
00:24:45,530 --> 00:24:42,620
shots being fired by anyone other than

579
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:45,540
Patek and a couple shots in the Mandalay

580
00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:48,690
Bay no the only other shot claimed by

581
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:52,200
anyone is the accidental gun shot of the

582
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:54,270
SWAT team member inside the room right

583
00:24:58,130 --> 00:24:56,490
so yeah that's that's the only one but

584
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,140
but I don't think that we've ever gotten

585
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:01,679
a nice good adequate explanation from

586
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:04,500
the police department regarding all

587
00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:05,970
these calls in other words for them to

588
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:08,340
come forward explain to us they're the

589
00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:10,290
ones getting the 9-1-1 calls there are

590
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:11,880
the ones presumably responding to the

591
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:15,530
911 calls what about reports of those

592
00:25:19,549 --> 00:25:17,580
responses and what was found or not

593
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:19,559
found exactly some follow-up information

594
00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:23,790
you you it's almost like the LV MPD is a

595
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:25,470
little pissed off that they were forced

596
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,820
to give this information so they're

597
00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:29,520
gonna make it hard on us or as hard on

598
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:32,040
anybody to put it all back together and

599
00:25:34,730 --> 00:25:33,450
they're not just keeping their mouth

600
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:34,740
shut you know they're just they're not

601
00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:36,510
gonna give any help whatsoever and

602
00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:38,160
that's really not what you want with a

603
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,660
police department in the largest mass

604
00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:41,700
shooting in US history you you want some

605
00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:43,140
transparency there and they're really

606
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:46,550
providing none and it's it's very very

607
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:49,290
suspect and they're creating a lot of

608
00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:50,610
this if they would have dumped half this

609
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:53,670
stuff out on October 6 I think a lot of

610
00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:55,290
this would have been dead by now you

611
00:25:59,270 --> 00:25:57,179
know and you know but they didn't they

612
00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:59,280
created a lot of this on themselves and

613
00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:01,980
you know it is what it is at this point

614
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:03,870
it's grown legs and it's gonna run for a

615
00:26:08,419 --> 00:26:06,240
long time yeah I think that it's very

616
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:08,429
unfortunate lombardo didn't handle it

617
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:10,490
well at the beginning which is

618
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,710
understandable he made some mistakes but

619
00:26:18,290 --> 00:26:16,080
that doesn't mean that you clam up and

620
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,300
your solution to the fact that you made

621
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,400
some early errors means that you don't

622
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:22,440
talk in the future right but that seems

623
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:25,530
to be where he's gone is that exactly

624
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:27,720
what they've done yeah he's gonna go in

625
00:26:34,419 --> 00:26:30,090
the opposite direction and so now we

626
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:34,429
were left with survivors local residents

627
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:36,570
people like you and me following

628
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:38,850
this having all these unanswered

629
00:26:44,509 --> 00:26:41,730
questions which you know the only people

630
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:44,519
that can help us answer these are the

631
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:46,710
police the guys that responded to all

632
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:49,529
these calls absolutely I mean there's

633
00:26:54,769 --> 00:26:52,110
you know a good example of that is like

634
00:26:58,129 --> 00:26:54,779
the the the guy that was a ruler of

635
00:27:00,289 --> 00:26:58,139
excuse me arrested wearing fatigues and

636
00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:00,299
ran into an RV and he was arrested that

637
00:27:05,509 --> 00:27:03,240
night in the eleven o'clock hour you

638
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:05,519
know they never mentioned that that if

639
00:27:09,889 --> 00:27:07,169
they haven't followed up on anything as

640
00:27:13,129 --> 00:27:09,899
far as I know I mean there's just you

641
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:13,139
know and they're not even giving you

642
00:27:17,299 --> 00:27:15,570
know any of the media a chance to ask

643
00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:17,309
questions not that the media is

644
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:20,100
answering asking questions sir have you

645
00:27:25,249 --> 00:27:22,230
gone through everything that has been

646
00:27:28,009 --> 00:27:25,259
released well no I would not say

647
00:27:30,049 --> 00:27:28,019
everything there's a lot of the body

648
00:27:31,629 --> 00:27:30,059
cams I haven't watched in these last few

649
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:31,639
released what about the police reports

650
00:27:37,009 --> 00:27:34,470
please report yes I've read everything

651
00:27:39,289 --> 00:27:37,019
at least know all of the individual

652
00:27:40,490 --> 00:27:39,299
reports that after all the statements

653
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:40,500
and all that good stuff

654
00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:43,850
so now so do any of those statements

655
00:27:50,180 --> 00:27:48,360
cover responding to a 911 call regarding

656
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:50,190
a shooting say at New York New York or

657
00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:55,350
Blasio I don't recall one no knock top

658
00:27:58,580 --> 00:27:56,279
of my head

659
00:28:01,850 --> 00:27:58,590
most of the witness statements were all

660
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:01,860
just from people at the event and what

661
00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:03,720
they thought took place I don't recall

662
00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:04,950
any just off the top of my head that

663
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,980
talked about I can follow up you know or

664
00:28:11,180 --> 00:28:09,360
an arrest being made or something of

665
00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:11,190
that nature a good example of something

666
00:28:14,749 --> 00:28:12,870
I've tried to find that it's not out

667
00:28:17,419 --> 00:28:14,759
there is are you familiar with who

668
00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:17,429
Melissa Ramirez is the the lady that was

669
00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:20,220
was deceased in the warehouse parking

670
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:22,350
lot for an hour are you familiar with

671
00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:24,539
that video that I'm talking about no why

672
00:28:28,249 --> 00:28:25,830
don't you explain it to our listeners

673
00:28:31,629 --> 00:28:28,259
okay um one of the victims of the event

674
00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:31,639
her name was Miss Melissa Ramirez

675
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:33,929
another YouTube channel out there named

676
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:37,769
5x5 knows Mike turbo he he went and got

677
00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:40,980
this footage from a private companies

678
00:28:45,529 --> 00:28:43,559
warehouse video had a camera mounted on

679
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,539
the back of the warehouse this camera

680
00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:47,760
was mounted perfectly where you can see

681
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:50,040
the tanks you can see the towards

682
00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:53,250
he knew kinda and in this video miss

683
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,470
Ramirez is actually drugged up in the

684
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,840
video they stay with her for a little

685
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:00,000
bit and then they leave her and she lays

686
00:29:03,770 --> 00:29:03,150
in that parking lot deceased for over an

687
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:03,780
hour

688
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:06,090
cops come by a couple times and check on

689
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:10,620
her and leave her and this video is is

690
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:13,350
one that I don't know how the FBI are

691
00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:17,100
whoever was covering this didn't find my

692
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,160
cat five-by-five got this video you know

693
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:22,440
on October 23rd because he went to the

694
00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:25,020
company and asked them for it the the

695
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:26,670
police department never even checked

696
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:28,470
with them to say hey is this camera on

697
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:30,630
was it recording turns out that's one of

698
00:29:35,180 --> 00:29:32,850
the biggest videos of the event if I had

699
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:35,190
to name five top videos from this event

700
00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:38,730
that's one of them he captures a whole

701
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,240
lot of information in that video and

702
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:44,640
that poor lady laid there dead for a

703
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:46,710
long time all by herself and it's pretty

704
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:49,830
sickening it's really sickening and

705
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,800
ultimately do you see her being picked

706
00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:55,520
up and taken away yes okay I think it's

707
00:30:01,700 --> 00:29:57,660
it's starting to get close to a midnight

708
00:30:03,410 --> 00:30:01,710
a private citizen I mean it's probably

709
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:03,420
one of the cops trucks comes and loads

710
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:06,120
are into a truck not a not a police unit

711
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:07,650
but a truck and they load her up and

712
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:10,500
take her off and how do we know for sure

713
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:14,340
who that is just from research and and

714
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:16,290
everybody just know at this point we've

715
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,230
identified who it was and we just I

716
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:20,880
don't I don't know who officially put it

717
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:23,100
all together who it was but I've just

718
00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:24,930
always known it to be her when when the

719
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:27,680
video came out and everything matches so

720
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,510
has her family made any statement about

721
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:33,360
that I'm not that I'm aware of them

722
00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:34,740
there was a memorial when I was in I

723
00:30:40,190 --> 00:30:37,620
went to Vegas and February to a protest

724
00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:40,200
of the LVN PD and when I went at that

725
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:41,880
point you know there was a big memorial

726
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:44,310
set up at that location for miss Ramirez

727
00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:46,200
so yeah I don't I don't think there's

728
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:48,630
any doubt that was that was her and in

729
00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:52,050
the video itself but it's a it's a very

730
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:54,060
hard video to watch there's no doubt

731
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:54,510
about it

732
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:56,700
so well we'll make sure that that video

733
00:31:01,550 --> 00:30:58,860
is is available on our website also for

734
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:01,560
people to see as sad that is that's the

735
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:02,610
first time I've heard that

736
00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:05,610
story so just literally left there by

737
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,360
herself

738
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:09,120
yes issues she was drugged up by two two

739
00:31:13,670 --> 00:31:11,310
males drug her up and stayed with her

740
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:13,680
for a little bit and then they left and

741
00:31:17,270 --> 00:31:14,970
you know you've literally got people

742
00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:17,280
walking by her when looking over at her

743
00:31:20,930 --> 00:31:18,270
went oh my gosh

744
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:20,940
keep on walking and she laid there for

745
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:24,750
well over an hour by herself well we we

746
00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:27,390
have fortunately an opposite story that

747
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:29,940
we told we had Heather Guzan was one of

748
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:32,070
our first episodes where she actually

749
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:34,380
stayed with a gentleman that was a

750
00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:37,260
complete stranger to her but she stayed

751
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:39,870
with him for well over an hour but gosh

752
00:31:43,460 --> 00:31:41,820
I I'm not recalling the story but I

753
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,470
think was a couple hours where she's

754
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:46,080
trying with the stranger he was was dead

755
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:47,760
but she stayed with him because she

756
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:49,980
didn't want him to be alone right yeah

757
00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:51,330
there's there's you know several stories

758
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:52,620
of that like that there talking to

759
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,350
survivors and yeah it's it's I just

760
00:31:59,300 --> 00:31:57,360
that was when I saw that video it just

761
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:59,310
killed me you know yeah you just you

762
00:32:03,650 --> 00:32:01,320
hate that it went down and it happened

763
00:32:05,930 --> 00:32:03,660
to her in that nature it's just sad yeah

764
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:05,940
because they most of the takeaway

765
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:09,360
stories are very very positive

766
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:11,880
I mean you Mull right here only great

767
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:14,220
things about the way people conducted

768
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:16,980
themselves ryr and in helping each other

769
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:18,900
and so on I mean you know you've got

770
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:21,510
some trampling but that's gonna happen

771
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:25,170
in any crowded environment like that

772
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:27,540
right generally a situation like that

773
00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:29,520
does bring out the best in humanity and

774
00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:31,080
you know if there's many many examples

775
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:33,180
of it that night and I don't want to

776
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:34,890
sound like I'm totally bashing the LVN

777
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:37,290
PD I think the body cams show many

778
00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:39,570
heroes on that force that night there

779
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:40,830
was a lot of cops did a lot of good

780
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:44,190
things that night but you know it's it

781
00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:46,350
is what it is as far as the the powers

782
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,870
to be I mean that their organization

783
00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:50,640
does not have the best history overall

784
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:52,680
to begin with so this didn't help it any

785
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:55,110
yeah I know I agree with you tons of

786
00:32:59,450 --> 00:32:56,940
heroics see it's it's caught on film

787
00:33:03,140 --> 00:32:59,460
we've seen it by Las Vegas police

788
00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:03,150
and also the concert goers and being a

789
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:05,430
country music fan myself I'd like to say

790
00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:07,110
that it was in part the type of people

791
00:33:11,270 --> 00:33:08,700
that go to country music concerts I

792
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:11,280
think tend to be very upstander

793
00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:13,290
idividuals and they proved it that night

794
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:15,990
now one individual who did

795
00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:18,270
kind of live up to expectations you

796
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:19,740
would probably agree as officer

797
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:22,380
Hendricks on the 31st floor

798
00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:26,100
listening to the massacre right floor

799
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:28,679
above him for over four minutes yeah

800
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:31,050
that that was that was hard to watch I

801
00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:33,059
mean that's you know no one content can

802
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:34,800
say for sure how they would react in a

803
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:38,130
situation like that but you know he had

804
00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:39,960
the absolute worst reaction you could

805
00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:42,390
have I mean you know he was sworn to

806
00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:44,520
uphold the law and protect citizens and

807
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:47,790
if nothing else his own friends were out

808
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:49,890
there I just he could have done

809
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:53,070
something I mean something he should and

810
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:55,140
could have but he didn't you know and

811
00:33:59,299 --> 00:33:57,450
and and he not only did he not do

812
00:34:00,530 --> 00:33:59,309
anything he prevented four other people

813
00:34:01,669 --> 00:34:00,540
from doing any there were three other

814
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:01,679
people from doing anything as well

815
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:03,330
because they were all following his lead

816
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:05,730
yeah yeah and I and I believe they were

817
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:08,010
armed these were armed absolutes that he

818
00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:10,950
was with so it wasn't as Lombardo said

819
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:13,950
in one interview oh well you don't bring

820
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:16,980
a knife to a gunfight there's an excuse

821
00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:20,879
for her doing that yeah it's like well

822
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,700
first of all when the guy with the gun

823
00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:25,919
is massacring hundreds of people yes you

824
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:27,300
do bring a knife you bring whatever you

825
00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:29,460
got right but he had a lot more than

826
00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:30,840
that he had a bulletproof vest on

827
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:33,480
himself to begin with right and again

828
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,510
and a fellow officer and a couple

829
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:39,240
security guards with things exactly and

830
00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:40,320
the security guards looked like they

831
00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:41,820
wanted to go ahead they were actually

832
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:43,710
you know if you watch that video

833
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:45,179
one of them's in front of him going down

834
00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:46,770
the hall like come on and you know I

835
00:34:50,419 --> 00:34:48,389
firmly believe they could have gone in

836
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:50,429
the stairwell and gone up to that floor

837
00:34:55,879 --> 00:34:52,740
and still been in with plenty of cover

838
00:34:58,660 --> 00:34:55,889
and just you know made noise shot a

839
00:35:01,310 --> 00:34:58,670
couple rounds into the door anything

840
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:01,320
something to just draw his attention

841
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:03,630
away yeah because at that point they

842
00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:04,859
didn't know his about the end even

843
00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:06,900
though it was about to end they didn't

844
00:35:10,849 --> 00:35:08,670
know that you know he could have made it

845
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,859
last a lot longer so does that mean

846
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:12,780
would they have stayed there in that you

847
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:14,700
know hallway paused for if it last

848
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:17,100
another ten minutes I'd say probably

849
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:20,520
yeah sadly so yeah well in Lombardo has

850
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:23,670
done nothing but make excuses for it and

851
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:26,820
also delayed the release of that video

852
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:29,540
also till after the election

853
00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:31,609
right a long time after the election

854
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:34,580
yeah was he yeah he really comes out of

855
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:37,130
this looking like quite a despicable

856
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:40,609
person and I'm sure you're as astounded

857
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:44,450
as we are that he got reelected I can't

858
00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:46,250
believe that actually if you remember in

859
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:47,780
one of his earlier interviews before the

860
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:49,670
release is coming out he actually made

861
00:35:53,290 --> 00:35:51,650
the quote said something like I don't

862
00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:53,300
want you to jump to conclusions when you

863
00:35:57,970 --> 00:35:55,790
see these body cams I think that video

864
00:36:00,220 --> 00:35:57,980
is what he was referencing because he

865
00:36:01,630 --> 00:36:00,230
knew one of his officers failed to take

866
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:01,640
action and I think that's what he was

867
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:02,720
referencing I think it's one of the

868
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:04,310
reasons why the timeline was so screwed

869
00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:06,470
up right you know because they were

870
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:09,080
trying to mask they were truth which was

871
00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:12,560
we were there we were in position to

872
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:15,260
stop this and we had and it wasn't

873
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,900
stopped so they were playing around with

874
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:20,240
that timeline like crazy in the early

875
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:23,330
stages the the other thing you know

876
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,290
there's a few outstanding mysteries that

877
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:30,320
they keep popping up high in my list I'm

878
00:36:34,750 --> 00:36:32,270
curious your thoughts about the fact

879
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,760
that it took the police over an hour

880
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:37,520
before they blew the door down all right

881
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:40,400
I still can't figure out why they were

882
00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:43,520
so meticulous and careful and slow and

883
00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:45,560
methodical in going through these floors

884
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:48,020
and clearing these floors and this and

885
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:50,330
that we highlighted on our YouTube

886
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:52,520
channel the video of one of the officers

887
00:36:58,570 --> 00:36:54,290
who wound up being one of the first in

888
00:37:00,940 --> 00:36:58,580
the room taking a piss right in a

889
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:00,950
bathroom and and taking time to wash his

890
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:04,550
hands after going to the bathroom it's

891
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:06,710
like how do these guys have enough time

892
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:08,630
to be going to the bathroom and then

893
00:37:14,380 --> 00:37:11,330
washing their hands when you've got a

894
00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:14,390
quote/unquote active shooter situation

895
00:37:20,170 --> 00:37:18,020
they did not know that that panic could

896
00:37:22,330 --> 00:37:20,180
kill themself in fact you can tell they

897
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:22,340
didn't know by the way they act when

898
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,530
they are going to blow the door they

899
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:26,720
these guys have some very serious looks

900
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:28,970
on their face they are tense they don't

901
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:31,910
know what's behind that door so you

902
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:33,530
don't know what's behind the door you

903
00:37:37,450 --> 00:37:34,850
don't know how many people are behind

904
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:37,460
the door yeah he stopped shooting but

905
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:39,170
they could start to shooting up at any

906
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:42,500
time why did it take them over an hour

907
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:43,010
to Bree

908
00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:44,930
that door I agree and you're the

909
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:45,830
gentleman you're talking about the

910
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:47,450
officer David Newton and you know he's

911
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:49,610
the one that took that you know piss

912
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:51,350
heard around the world so to speak and

913
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:54,770
to me that was the first time I was

914
00:38:00,100 --> 00:37:56,810
watching all those body cam releases is

915
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,110
I was just dreaming at my computer what

916
00:38:05,770 --> 00:38:02,480
are you waiting for you know it just I

917
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:05,780
couldn't process how slow and methodical

918
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:07,730
like you said how they were coming about

919
00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:10,970
this how can they be going this slow yes

920
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:12,380
I know they hadn't heard shots in a

921
00:38:17,890 --> 00:38:15,770
while but they had no idea apparently if

922
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,900
you believe that that that it was done

923
00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:20,480
it almost seemed like they maybe they

924
00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:23,660
did know he was down I mean and that's

925
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:25,160
what's created a lot of these crazy

926
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:27,830
controversies because you know I'd like

927
00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:29,510
to say yeah they didn't know that but I

928
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,640
can't defend that because their actions

929
00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:32,720
and those body cams

930
00:38:39,070 --> 00:38:35,240
you know there's every indication and

931
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:39,080
those body cams to me gives makes me

932
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:41,120
think that they thought the shooter was

933
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:43,730
down and done yeah it's just there's no

934
00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:46,880
no hurry at all yeah I mean one thing

935
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:49,160
I've heard but you maybe you could speak

936
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,510
to this having gone through all the

937
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:52,880
videos is that did it take them that

938
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:55,640
long to get the breach materials that

939
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,850
they needed explosives no no no Levi

940
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:01,280
Hancock had it on him and he had it

941
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:03,530
unwound ready to go in five seconds it

942
00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:04,760
seemed like you know he had that ready

943
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:06,620
in the hallway you know it's just it's

944
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:09,170
just like tape material breach you know

945
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:10,820
the thing they used for that breach and

946
00:39:14,890 --> 00:39:13,010
he just rolled it out set a charge and

947
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:14,900
placed it and and went no it wasn't that

948
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:15,890
at all

949
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:18,530
I don't know why they took him so long I

950
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:20,870
don't I mean I understand clearing

951
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:23,810
clearing the rooms down that particular

952
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:26,390
hallway I don't know why they even

953
00:39:32,350 --> 00:39:29,570
bothered going in the the 134 one sorry

954
00:39:34,690 --> 00:39:32,360
1:35 suite one floor below where he took

955
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:34,700
that piss what why are you going in

956
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:37,610
there get up to where you know even if

957
00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:39,530
you knew he was down get on up there and

958
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:41,870
secure the site can you know secure the

959
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:44,360
crime scene yeah and that's what's

960
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:46,550
amazing to me they would have you know

961
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:48,410
Hendricks may have blood on his hands

962
00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:50,690
but man the entire police force would

963
00:39:56,859 --> 00:39:52,820
have had blood on their hands if if

964
00:39:59,319 --> 00:39:56,869
paddock had been alive and opened fire

965
00:40:01,150 --> 00:39:59,329
well if it was alive in that room he

966
00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:01,160
could have mowed them down they were

967
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:02,420
standing right there in that hallway

968
00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:05,599
across from room 134 I mean they were

969
00:40:09,309 --> 00:40:07,670
taking no precautions I mean I wouldn't

970
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:09,319
have been anywhere in the open if

971
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:11,569
someone was in the 134 room he could

972
00:40:14,859 --> 00:40:13,249
have shot right through the door and got

973
00:40:17,259 --> 00:40:14,869
every one of them standing in the hall

974
00:40:19,779 --> 00:40:17,269
in the stairwell it's like they weren't

975
00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:19,789
taking precautions of that it's almost

976
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:21,380
like they had foreknowledge of what was

977
00:40:26,259 --> 00:40:24,049
on the other side of the door I mean and

978
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:26,269
I can't make an argument against it and

979
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,950
that drives me crazy because I do

980
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:29,599
believe patek is guilty don't get me

981
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:32,390
wrong I believe padic is guilty of sin I

982
00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:35,359
just I don't know if he had help or not

983
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:38,029
I suspect he did he had help in some

984
00:40:42,579 --> 00:40:41,089
degree I don't think he was I think he

985
00:40:45,579 --> 00:40:42,589
was alone in that room from at least

986
00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:45,589
1012 on there's no doubt about that you

987
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:47,480
know we had eyes on that room and how

988
00:40:53,140 --> 00:40:49,849
all escape routes were covered and from

989
00:40:54,970 --> 00:40:53,150
1012 on well and even beyond that Doug

990
00:40:57,099 --> 00:40:54,980
Papa who we've had on the show I noticed

991
00:40:59,229 --> 00:40:57,109
he just posted something new for the

992
00:41:00,819 --> 00:40:59,239
first time where he's confirming that he

993
00:41:02,819 --> 00:41:00,829
was alone in the room the entire time

994
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:02,829
based on the lock interrogation reports

995
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:05,839
based on when the doors were locked and

996
00:41:11,229 --> 00:41:09,680
when they were unlocked he starts from a

997
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:11,239
vantage point of when you go into the

998
00:41:15,339 --> 00:41:13,640
room what they found is what they found

999
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:15,349
the body cams are there they're clear

1000
00:41:19,329 --> 00:41:17,450
right one person was found it was Patek

1001
00:41:21,249 --> 00:41:19,339
okay right if you follow the lock

1002
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:21,259
reports from the room you would see that

1003
00:41:24,729 --> 00:41:22,970
no one else could have gotten into that

1004
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:24,739
room based on the lock reports prior to

1005
00:41:29,229 --> 00:41:27,440
that so he feels it 100% confirmed that

1006
00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:29,239
paddock was the only one in that room

1007
00:41:34,329 --> 00:41:32,150
from the time that firing started as

1008
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,339
well yeah go ahead well I was just gonna

1009
00:41:38,789 --> 00:41:36,319
say actually I know the lock reports

1010
00:41:41,259 --> 00:41:38,799
very well and I would disagree with his

1011
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:41,269
assertion on that I I think the lock

1012
00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:44,210
reports show a very odd manipulation of

1013
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:46,940
the locks 30 minutes prior to it all

1014
00:41:51,579 --> 00:41:49,730
starting I don't I can't definitively

1015
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:51,589
say what was going on but there's

1016
00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:52,609
something weird

1017
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,220
I would I would encourage you to look at

1018
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:57,440
the lock reports yourself and and plot

1019
00:42:03,999 --> 00:41:59,599
them out when everything is taking place

1020
00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:04,009
and if it was just paddock the guy was

1021
00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:05,660
doing some weird stuff in the hallway

1022
00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:07,940
going in and out closing shutting it

1023
00:42:12,370 --> 00:42:09,950
it's awful strange

1024
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:12,380
but you know I again I go back to he was

1025
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:14,300
alone from 1012 on I don't think

1026
00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:18,410
well perhaps Papa doesn't bother to to

1027
00:42:22,839 --> 00:42:21,320
dig into it prior to the final locking

1028
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:22,849
because he's saying look bottom line if

1029
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:24,020
this is the last time that they were

1030
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:27,440
locked then the next is the breach and

1031
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:29,930
there's one guy in there right then how

1032
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:32,720
could there have been more guys and that

1033
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:34,310
is very much accurate the last time it

1034
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:35,930
was locked was well before the shooting

1035
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:38,690
started yes it was Lee and I didn't

1036
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:40,490
there again I don't I don't doubt that

1037
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:42,800
at all there's no doubt that no one got

1038
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:45,020
out of that room from you know 1012 on

1039
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:47,570
just wasn't away but it almost looks

1040
00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:49,430
like to me in those lock reports that he

1041
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:53,060
was with someone before it but you know

1042
00:42:57,339 --> 00:42:55,190
that's just strictly speculation well

1043
00:43:01,210 --> 00:42:57,349
you would say you would say as recently

1044
00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:01,220
as 30 minutes before the shooting based

1045
00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:04,070
on your examination of the lock reports

1046
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,920
it seems like more than one person it

1047
00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:08,960
really does yes and based on the

1048
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,060
findings of another youtuber that I run

1049
00:43:15,579 --> 00:43:12,800
with all the time

1050
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,589
UFO UK hunter I mean yes our UFO hunter

1051
00:43:19,450 --> 00:43:17,359
UK it's another youtuber that's out

1052
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:19,460
there he's really dug into this he's

1053
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:21,650
gone as far as contact the lock

1054
00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:25,540
manufacturer and find out where the

1055
00:43:30,970 --> 00:43:28,849
mechanism inside the lock where it lives

1056
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:30,980
and how it actually reports back to this

1057
00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:34,010
system and it's there's a lot of

1058
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:35,630
manipulation of those locks

1059
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,609
yeah right before prior to the shooting

1060
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:39,440
but no once it was finally thrown I

1061
00:43:43,630 --> 00:43:41,089
think it's nine thirty six and nine

1062
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:43,640
forty six I think on the two doors yeah

1063
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,020
and they never open again until the

1064
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:47,599
breach okay so that's something that

1065
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:49,310
you're suspicious of that indicates

1066
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:51,410
perhaps he had help what what other

1067
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:53,210
things can you point to that tell you

1068
00:43:58,780 --> 00:43:56,510
that you think yet help um well you know

1069
00:44:01,630 --> 00:43:58,790
all the explosives and the van bothers

1070
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,640
me I you know it's it just seems like an

1071
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:04,400
odd an odd thing to have all that

1072
00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:07,310
explosives in the van and not any plans

1073
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:12,950
to use it so you know it's you know and

1074
00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:14,780
that's where I'm so conflicted my common

1075
00:44:19,329 --> 00:44:17,180
sense side of me wants to believe it was

1076
00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:19,339
just paddock but then I just can't

1077
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:20,990
answer so many questions like you know

1078
00:44:24,049 --> 00:44:22,970
like what you're asking me I can't

1079
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:24,059
pinpoint anyone

1080
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:27,209
thing but just it's like when you add it

1081
00:44:31,249 --> 00:44:29,369
all up the collective just doesn't seem

1082
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,259
like he could have got this accomplished

1083
00:44:35,959 --> 00:44:34,079
by himself well and one of the things

1084
00:44:37,249 --> 00:44:35,969
I've always been an obvious thing to

1085
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,259
point out for the beginning is the lack

1086
00:44:42,709 --> 00:44:39,839
of a note but that it's definitely yet

1087
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:42,719
another curious element that is

1088
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:45,089
unexplained because right it sure seems

1089
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:47,819
like he went through a lot of hassle a

1090
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:51,920
lot of planning to not leave behind any

1091
00:44:56,689 --> 00:44:55,170
indication as to why he did it right and

1092
00:44:59,359 --> 00:44:56,699
you could make an argument you know

1093
00:45:02,209 --> 00:44:59,369
watching all the CCTV footage that the

1094
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:02,219
Mandalay Bay released you know hi you

1095
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:03,599
could make the argument that paddock did

1096
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:05,369
not look like a man that was ready to

1097
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:07,619
was planning on not leaving that hotel

1098
00:45:13,489 --> 00:45:10,650
he is very calm cool collected I mean he

1099
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:13,499
he paid off all his debts to the hotel

1100
00:45:16,969 --> 00:45:14,640
so if he wanted to get back at the

1101
00:45:19,279 --> 00:45:16,979
hotels why would he pay debts off it's

1102
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,289
just it's it's they're gonna just

1103
00:45:24,109 --> 00:45:22,319
doesn't add up to the final episode of

1104
00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:24,119
what happened nothing adds up to what

1105
00:45:32,179 --> 00:45:29,099
actually happened yeah yeah you you know

1106
00:45:34,189 --> 00:45:32,189
we we interviewed early in the series an

1107
00:45:36,229 --> 00:45:34,199
expert on lone wolf shootings and he

1108
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,239
said that he wasn't aware he couldn't

1109
00:45:40,099 --> 00:45:37,920
think of a case where the guy didn't

1110
00:45:43,189 --> 00:45:40,109
leave behind some manifesto some note

1111
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,199
some indication as to already did yeah

1112
00:45:48,049 --> 00:45:46,319
yeah it just doesn't it doesn't really

1113
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,059
make that much sense especially when you

1114
00:45:52,969 --> 00:45:49,920
deal with someone who you know

1115
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:52,979
apparently was a huge you know egomaniac

1116
00:45:57,469 --> 00:45:54,689
and narcissist and everything I mean

1117
00:46:01,039 --> 00:45:57,479
which it seems like he was it's almost

1118
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:01,049
you know you want that infamy and so

1119
00:46:04,579 --> 00:46:02,130
yeah you'd think you would leave

1120
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:04,589
something behind I mean I think I think

1121
00:46:08,089 --> 00:46:06,390
we know all that stuff from your

1122
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,099
interview I mean kudos to you you got

1123
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:10,319
the one interview with Bruce I thought

1124
00:46:15,709 --> 00:46:11,910
that interview told us a whole lot about

1125
00:46:17,539 --> 00:46:15,719
his brother um it was great yeah I think

1126
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:17,549
I think most of his information was was

1127
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,049
coming from mom I think I think Bruce

1128
00:46:22,249 --> 00:46:21,119
talks to mom right I think that's what

1129
00:46:24,499 --> 00:46:22,259
we were getting when we talked to

1130
00:46:27,439 --> 00:46:24,509
Bruce's we were getting really what the

1131
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:27,449
mom was able to to share with him but

1132
00:46:33,259 --> 00:46:29,729
you know my explanation for the no note

1133
00:46:35,809 --> 00:46:33,269
is the shooting is the note another word

1134
00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:35,819
that is the message you know that that I

1135
00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:38,190
could achieve this

1136
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:39,840
you know right that I could do this that

1137
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:43,110
I'm what was smart enough capable enough

1138
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:46,770
to pull this off you know in this very

1139
00:46:52,370 --> 00:46:50,250
very very twisted narcissists head who

1140
00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:52,380
also was probably some form of a

1141
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,060
psychopath his father we know was a

1142
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:56,460
psychopath I've never got the love of

1143
00:47:03,440 --> 00:46:59,490
his father out to perhaps outdo his

1144
00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:03,450
father by beating the casinos just like

1145
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,070
his dad used to rob banks he's out

1146
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:06,960
beating beating the casinos and then

1147
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:09,690
when he starts to lose to the casinos

1148
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:13,490
apparently you know he's gonna beat them

1149
00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:18,000
in this other extraordinary way and it

1150
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:20,280
is pretty extraordinary I mean in in a

1151
00:47:26,990 --> 00:47:23,100
sick sick way you'd have to say it's

1152
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:27,000
impressive what this guy was able to do

1153
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:31,170
under the under the nose of Mandalay Bay

1154
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:34,710
in MGM oh absolutely I mean if it was

1155
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:37,410
really just him and he did all this all

1156
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:40,470
by himself with no help I mean the most

1157
00:47:45,350 --> 00:47:42,450
successful mass murder of all time I

1158
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:45,360
mean he he pulled it off to perfection

1159
00:47:51,590 --> 00:47:47,700
other than you know the the tanks did

1160
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,600
not go up you know but I didn't you said

1161
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,520
it right there the most successful mass

1162
00:48:01,400 --> 00:47:55,920
murderer of all time I think that's the

1163
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:01,410
title this crazy nutjob wanted and you

1164
00:48:07,340 --> 00:48:05,310
know it does make you not want to even

1165
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:07,350
say his name and and we even thought

1166
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:08,760
about that when we first started doing

1167
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:11,010
the show is you know should we be

1168
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,540
mentioning this guy's name my bright

1169
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:14,400
idea of mentioning this guy's name but

1170
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,990
you know it's just the practicalities

1171
00:48:19,970 --> 00:48:18,060
it's just so hard to cover it right

1172
00:48:21,350 --> 00:48:19,980
without mentioning the name it's

1173
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:21,360
sickening you know it's there's like

1174
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:23,460
I've said it from day one paddock was

1175
00:48:27,590 --> 00:48:25,650
guilty of a whole lot I mean whether you

1176
00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:27,600
think you know whatever you want to

1177
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,430
think what theory you want to believe I

1178
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:31,440
have no doubt the man is guilty of

1179
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:33,750
something and you know I I just I go

1180
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:36,090
back to the pan off the casinos if you

1181
00:48:39,410 --> 00:48:37,590
were gonna get back at the casinos why

1182
00:48:41,870 --> 00:48:39,420
would you pay him off I just that seems

1183
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:41,880
a little odd why would you stop when he

1184
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:45,750
did that seems odd to me it seems like

1185
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:47,100
if you you know if you were if he was

1186
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:48,690
really planning on making this his big

1187
00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:52,260
tada one last stand why not just keep

1188
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:54,270
shoot until all your rounds are gone why

1189
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:57,090
not you know shoot a few at the Luxor

1190
00:49:01,370 --> 00:48:58,890
right there beside him and break out all

1191
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:01,380
those windows just go haywire he still

1192
00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:03,930
had five thousand rounds you know so yep

1193
00:49:09,590 --> 00:49:05,910
that's add that to the list of

1194
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:09,600
unexplained things you know my little

1195
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:11,370
theory on that is that you know he went

1196
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:14,850
out in an orgy of violence and he had

1197
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:17,510
had his orgasm that to put it in that

1198
00:49:21,470 --> 00:49:20,010
manner number one number two you know I

1199
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:21,480
do believe and I might be wrong about

1200
00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:23,370
this but I do believe that the crowd may

1201
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,270
have been somewhat dispersed oh okay

1202
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:29,520
that time so so the shooting fish in a

1203
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:31,410
barrel was kind of no longer the case

1204
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:33,750
correct and most of that I firmly

1205
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:36,450
believe most of the victims came in the

1206
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:40,050
first few volleys the the later own

1207
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:42,330
volleys you know were directed at cops

1208
00:49:45,890 --> 00:49:43,740
here and yeah he what he didn't have a

1209
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:45,900
clear target at that point that's where

1210
00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:47,250
I would think just I guess it's saying

1211
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,900
something about me I think I would turn

1212
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:50,640
to the Luxor and say hey how many

1213
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:52,290
windows can I break out real quick and

1214
00:49:56,420 --> 00:49:54,090
then again he could have just been spent

1215
00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:56,430
for firing a thousand rounds he was an

1216
00:50:02,060 --> 00:49:58,980
older man and people like to say anyone

1217
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:02,070
can shoot an ar-15 okay not anyone can

1218
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:04,170
shoot a thousand rounds through an ar-15

1219
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:07,140
that's ludicrous to think that and not

1220
00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:09,150
be tired and gassed he could have just

1221
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:11,550
been gassed you know I think you're

1222
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:13,110
probably onto something there yeah yeah

1223
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:14,940
and supposedly he who did have back

1224
00:50:19,310 --> 00:50:16,650
problems similar to his brother crisis

1225
00:50:21,140 --> 00:50:19,320
and I think the volleys the sound of the

1226
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:21,150
volleys do back that up a little bit

1227
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:23,160
because if you listen to the first few

1228
00:50:27,350 --> 00:50:25,710
volleys they're very regimented so

1229
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:27,360
regimented in fact people think it's

1230
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:29,490
from a belt-fed weapon but if you listen

1231
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:31,830
to the last couple volleys they're very

1232
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:34,530
you know in or minute like you possibly

1233
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,930
could be getting tired and and I don't

1234
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:38,460
know if you've ever shot a bump stock a

1235
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:41,010
bump stock is very hard to fire it takes

1236
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:42,810
a lot of coordination and you've got to

1237
00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:45,720
really hold on to your rifle and if

1238
00:50:49,550 --> 00:50:48,360
you're gassed and tired maybe that's

1239
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:49,560
what you're hearing in those shots

1240
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:51,150
because yeah it's very unorganized

1241
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,210
pattern on those last couple rounds and

1242
00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:56,400
what about all the people that were

1243
00:51:01,040 --> 00:50:59,220
absolutely in fact to this day a hundred

1244
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:01,050
percent convinced that were at the

1245
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:03,330
concert that it was multiple shooters he

1246
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:05,670
said the sound of the gunshots

1247
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:08,010
there's no way it was one shooter well

1248
00:51:13,299 --> 00:51:10,680
Jim I've talked to several survivors of

1249
00:51:16,009 --> 00:51:13,309
this event that we're in the venue and

1250
00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:16,019
every single one of them believes there

1251
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,119
was multiple shooters and a shooter at

1252
00:51:22,819 --> 00:51:21,059
the event and I've talked to several

1253
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,829
that that don't want to come out and

1254
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:24,480
don't want to give their story because

1255
00:51:29,329 --> 00:51:26,970
they're afraid of being chastised online

1256
00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:29,339
and I think there's a lot of people out

1257
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:31,380
there I've said for a long time if we

1258
00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:34,140
ever get a smoking gun to this case it's

1259
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:36,359
going to come from a private video of a

1260
00:51:42,769 --> 00:51:40,470
survivor and I know there's still

1261
00:51:44,779 --> 00:51:42,779
survivors out there that has videos and

1262
00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:44,789
has information that hasn't released it

1263
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:48,150
I just released a video last week where

1264
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:50,609
a survivor contacted me it's the first

1265
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,260
time anyone's seen two of the three

1266
00:51:56,299 --> 00:51:54,480
videos I released and they were recorded

1267
00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:56,309
right within I call the kill zone the

1268
00:52:00,980 --> 00:51:58,470
worst place to be inside the venue and

1269
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:00,990
we haven't seen those in 11 months

1270
00:52:04,789 --> 00:52:02,760
because she was afraid to come forward

1271
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,799
because she didn't want to take heat and

1272
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:06,480
Kristen because what what's happening is

1273
00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:08,190
these survivors are getting it from both

1274
00:52:12,289 --> 00:52:10,380
sides they're getting it from the real

1275
00:52:14,059 --> 00:52:12,299
crazy conspiracy theorists saying all

1276
00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:14,069
your fake it was all fake and you're

1277
00:52:17,089 --> 00:52:15,809
lying you're part of the cover-up and

1278
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:17,099
then you're getting it from the

1279
00:52:23,509 --> 00:52:21,000
narrative guys saying oh you just think

1280
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:23,519
you heard two shooters and and so

1281
00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:24,420
they're really kind of getting it from

1282
00:52:28,279 --> 00:52:26,069
both sides so they don't want to come

1283
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:28,289
out and tell anybody and that's what we

1284
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:33,150
don't need so yeah well you know the

1285
00:52:38,059 --> 00:52:36,329
explanations perhaps for the hearing

1286
00:52:40,279 --> 00:52:38,069
different shots is they're on the ground

1287
00:52:41,539 --> 00:52:40,289
you got tremendous echoing going on down

1288
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:41,549
there not to mention you've got

1289
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:45,119
microphones onstage yes but correct I

1290
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,130
firmly believe I think when you see the

1291
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:50,160
the the survivors and victims talk about

1292
00:52:54,859 --> 00:52:52,500
it felt like the gunshots were following

1293
00:52:57,769 --> 00:52:54,869
me I think it is some of the PA system

1294
00:53:00,380 --> 00:52:57,779
picking that up and pushing it through

1295
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:00,390
other speakers in the venue when at the

1296
00:53:04,999 --> 00:53:01,890
end of the day with all this talk about

1297
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:05,009
additional shooters whether it be at the

1298
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:07,500
time or in the eleven o'clock hour we

1299
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,180
just don't have any evidence additional

1300
00:53:18,019 --> 00:53:15,359
to the 911 calls or what people have

1301
00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:18,029
said in other words where are where is

1302
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:19,350
the bullet holes

1303
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:21,330
right New York New York where the bullet

1304
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:24,420
holes at Bellagio when a number is

1305
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,280
incorrect there's no evidence physical

1306
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:28,800
hard evidence of any other shooter but

1307
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,370
Patek

1308
00:53:33,620 --> 00:53:31,440
but I can tell you every survivor that

1309
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:33,630
I've talked to I firmly believe them

1310
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:35,910
100% they believe there was another

1311
00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:38,970
shooter in the venue I mean I've had

1312
00:53:42,530 --> 00:53:40,440
some tell me as far as they've seen

1313
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:42,540
muzzle flash within the venue but don't

1314
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:44,790
want to talk about it and well the other

1315
00:53:51,890 --> 00:53:48,180
thing missing in my view is okay let's

1316
00:53:54,610 --> 00:53:51,900
say there were other shooters in the 11

1317
00:53:57,350 --> 00:53:54,620
o'clock hour these reports were accurate

1318
00:53:59,330 --> 00:53:57,360
who are these other shooters all right

1319
00:54:02,600 --> 00:53:59,340
what is their relationship to paddock

1320
00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:02,610
what is this what was this if there were

1321
00:54:08,090 --> 00:54:04,920
in fact additional shooters in the 11

1322
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:08,100
o'clock hour right the bottom line if it

1323
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,680
was if it if there is something to all

1324
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:12,240
the claims of hearing shots between

1325
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,110
11:00 and 12:00 and some of the deeper

1326
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:18,720
theories are correct it just it has to

1327
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:22,050
be a cover-up of a epic proportion

1328
00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:23,760
that's the only explanation and it's

1329
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:25,740
deep dark and nefarious and I don't even

1330
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:27,180
want to know about it to be honest with

1331
00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:29,400
you if that's the case because I mean

1332
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:31,950
you've you've got it's not like you know

1333
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:33,000
a lot of people talk about the

1334
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,010
helicopters and I even point out some

1335
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:38,400
suspicious helicopters during that time

1336
00:54:43,220 --> 00:54:40,530
but there's nothing that went on that

1337
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:43,230
night in the air that the FAA didn't

1338
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:45,750
know about so you know if there is

1339
00:54:50,030 --> 00:54:47,010
something even covered up you're looking

1340
00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:50,040
at the levels that it would reach that's

1341
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:50,760
scary

1342
00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:53,010
so you know it's that's the only other

1343
00:54:59,870 --> 00:54:56,390
it's either of own wolf or a crazy huge

1344
00:55:03,430 --> 00:54:59,880
conspiracy and you're in tight with that

1345
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:03,440
conspiracy crowd on YouTube

1346
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:06,210
give us what that what what they would

1347
00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:08,610
say what what is this big huge other

1348
00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:10,950
c-cup couple different theories running

1349
00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:12,660
around you know a lot of people do still

1350
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:13,980
think it was some sort of Saudi

1351
00:55:20,090 --> 00:55:16,200
involvement and it was some type of an

1352
00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:20,100
assassination attempt some people well

1353
00:55:22,610 --> 00:55:21,120
let me ask you about the Saudi way

1354
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,620
because that one was floated quite a bit

1355
00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:24,240
and we did cover that a little bit on

1356
00:55:28,550 --> 00:55:26,070
the show but the idea is that there's a

1357
00:55:29,810 --> 00:55:28,560
Saudi prince that owns the four seasons

1358
00:55:32,539 --> 00:55:29,820
that he was staying at the four seasons

1359
00:55:36,169 --> 00:55:32,549
that then the crown prince

1360
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:36,179
was seen at the Tropicana and that this

1361
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:40,079
was a hit on the crown prince because he

1362
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:41,609
was about to crack down on corruption

1363
00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:45,089
and in fact did and I believe put the

1364
00:55:50,989 --> 00:55:48,839
other Prince in in jail in in in the

1365
00:55:53,929 --> 00:55:50,999
ritz-carlton jail as they call it in in

1366
00:55:57,069 --> 00:55:53,939
Saudi Arabia a week or two after Vegas

1367
00:55:59,929 --> 00:55:57,079
so but do we even know for sure on that

1368
00:56:03,380 --> 00:55:59,939
conspiracy theory if you know were those

1369
00:56:05,209 --> 00:56:03,390
two guys actually in Vegas there's no no

1370
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:05,219
proof whatsoever they were in Vegas and

1371
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,660
the gentlemen they show walking through

1372
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:09,359
the Tropicana is not a prince that is a

1373
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:11,849
cop who was at a softball game and had

1374
00:56:15,949 --> 00:56:14,249
went out got his gun from his car and

1375
00:56:17,179 --> 00:56:15,959
came back here and he was a security

1376
00:56:18,529 --> 00:56:17,189
guard I think not because he was the one

1377
00:56:19,789 --> 00:56:18,539
that was supposed to be he was the one

1378
00:56:23,509 --> 00:56:19,799
who's supposed to be the Crown Prince so

1379
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:23,519
you say yes that's right

1380
00:56:27,259 --> 00:56:25,380
okay I don't remember his name now with

1381
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:27,269
no that's not the case and there's no

1382
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:30,420
evidence whatsoever that puts anybody

1383
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:34,380
you know MSB in Vegas that night there's

1384
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:36,209
just not out there either either of the

1385
00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:39,599
princes no no nobody know so how did

1386
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,420
that how did that story even even start

1387
00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:44,880
well it's there's crazy I mean there's

1388
00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:46,859
but it's not just that there's people to

1389
00:56:51,469 --> 00:56:48,660
think it was all one big drill and a

1390
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:51,479
fake totally fake nobody died and they

1391
00:56:58,429 --> 00:56:54,420
were using rubber dummies in the venue

1392
00:57:00,259 --> 00:56:58,439
and it's it's crazy okay let's bring it

1393
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:00,269
a little bit back down to earth so

1394
00:57:06,019 --> 00:57:03,209
you've debunked the Saudi theory what

1395
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,029
would be the most commonly followed a

1396
00:57:11,269 --> 00:57:07,920
conspiracy theory that that people are

1397
00:57:13,459 --> 00:57:11,279
tracking in YouTube I don't know if you

1398
00:57:16,489 --> 00:57:13,469
could really say one theory is the more

1399
00:57:18,289 --> 00:57:16,499
common of any of the theories I think

1400
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,299
the general consensus is we all feel

1401
00:57:24,499 --> 00:57:20,880
like something is a myth and we're all

1402
00:57:26,269 --> 00:57:24,509
kind of at different levels but I you

1403
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:26,279
know I don't that the Saudi thing it's

1404
00:57:30,709 --> 00:57:28,859
just my opinion I don't believe that guy

1405
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:30,719
coming through the Tropicana I'm I'm in

1406
00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:33,839
my mind I'm convinced that's a guard at

1407
00:57:37,849 --> 00:57:35,579
the Tropicana some people will tell you

1408
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:37,859
right now no that was the prince so it

1409
00:57:41,989 --> 00:57:40,140
still comes down to opinion I don't

1410
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:41,999
think that was the case by any means but

1411
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:44,910
you know it's I don't think there's any

1412
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:46,450
one theory that everybody

1413
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:49,750
scribes - it's all it's it's just it's a

1414
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:52,450
floating scale all the time I think I

1415
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:54,730
kind of fall into the yeah I think

1416
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:57,130
they're covering up some but given the

1417
00:58:01,530 --> 00:57:58,930
right evidence I could be totally

1418
00:58:04,349 --> 00:58:01,540
convinced it's just the LVM PD in the

1419
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:04,359
cover-your-ass mode is to cover up but

1420
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,950
given the right evidence - I could be

1421
00:58:10,020 --> 00:58:07,359
convinced that maybe there was something

1422
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:10,030
more nefarious going on but until I get

1423
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:13,300
that concrete evidence I cannot commit

1424
00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:15,880
totally to saying yes there was shooting

1425
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:17,320
going on between 11:00 and 12:00 even

1426
00:58:21,810 --> 00:58:19,210
though I suspect and what I see in my

1427
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:21,820
numbers kind of leads me that direction

1428
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:24,400
I still got to go about what I can prove

1429
00:58:28,290 --> 00:58:26,710
and I can't prove anything yeah well I

1430
00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:28,300
could say regarding the reports of

1431
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:30,430
shootings I compare it to when we had a

1432
00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:32,470
big earthquake here 20 or so years ago

1433
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:34,420
in Los Angeles and we had a lot of

1434
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:37,510
aftershocks and it got to the point

1435
00:58:44,579 --> 00:58:42,160
where any time a truck went by I thought

1436
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,589
we were having an earthquake as it just

1437
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:46,240
it was happening so often you start

1438
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,510
confusing one for the other and it I

1439
00:58:54,359 --> 00:58:51,040
think it's very possible that in the

1440
00:58:57,180 --> 00:58:54,369
skittish environment that people were in

1441
00:58:58,530 --> 00:58:57,190
after that shooting I mean it was crazy

1442
00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:58,540
I mean you've talked to enough people

1443
00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:02,319
and so I - to know how crazy it was that

1444
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:04,390
they say that you know to say that this

1445
00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:06,910
was a ten minute event is to totally

1446
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:09,190
misunderstand what was going on in Vegas

1447
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:11,050
at that time right this was this was a

1448
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:14,290
three or four or five hour event it was

1449
00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:16,210
madness because they just did not know

1450
00:59:20,579 --> 00:59:18,819
no one knew what was going on and there

1451
00:59:23,339 --> 00:59:20,589
was panic popping up all over the place

1452
00:59:25,890 --> 00:59:23,349
and so anything you're hearing that's

1453
00:59:28,859 --> 00:59:25,900
that's loud at that point is sounding

1454
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:28,869
like a gunshot right right and and just

1455
00:59:33,690 --> 00:59:31,450
the way the the powers to be are

1456
00:59:35,849 --> 00:59:33,700
handling it just adds to the problem

1457
00:59:38,849 --> 00:59:35,859
they're just not being you know it's

1458
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:38,859
like the MGM not releasing their video

1459
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:40,630
from inside the hotel they released it

1460
00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:42,490
through a news organization there's only

1461
00:59:48,569 --> 00:59:44,560
reason we have the CCTV footage of panic

1462
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:48,579
to begin with the evidence is there that

1463
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:50,740
could be released to put a lot of these

1464
00:59:53,819 --> 00:59:52,390
theories to bed and I'll give you an

1465
00:59:57,059 --> 00:59:53,829
example of that

1466
00:59:59,309 --> 00:59:57,069
you know we've got you know officer Levi

1467
01:00:00,300 --> 00:59:59,319
Hancock who performed the breach and was

1468
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:00,310
the first one in the

1469
01:00:06,620 --> 01:00:02,500
in the room that night he conveniently

1470
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:06,630
left his body cam off wasn't recording

1471
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:10,840
his one of his I forget the guys what

1472
01:00:15,090 --> 01:00:13,390
his position is makes the excuse formal

1473
01:00:19,290 --> 01:00:15,100
he didn't have it on but he clearly has

1474
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,300
it on him from the videos so Levi didn't

1475
01:00:24,270 --> 01:00:21,040
he conveniently did not turn his SWAT

1476
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,280
camera off to this date we have one body

1477
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:27,040
cam showing inside either of those two

1478
01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:29,110
rooms when there was like seven or eight

1479
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:31,470
officers that went into that room just

1480
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:35,380
release more videos that show more in

1481
01:00:38,430 --> 01:00:36,670
that room like another big conspiracy

1482
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:38,440
that people are really latching onto

1483
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:40,810
which I don't believe is that the glass

1484
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:44,050
in room 30 to 135 was not broken till

1485
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:45,910
after the shooting ended and that's

1486
01:00:51,290 --> 01:00:48,460
because there's no video proof showing

1487
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,300
that there's actually a gentleman a

1488
01:00:54,990 --> 01:00:53,200
policeman that walks right up to the

1489
01:00:57,690 --> 01:00:55,000
window opens the curtains and looks out

1490
01:01:00,960 --> 01:00:57,700
where's his body cam footage why haven't

1491
01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:00,970
we seen that they could quiet a lot of

1492
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:03,580
the conspiracies by releasing evidence

1493
01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:06,880
and but yet we keep getting these you

1494
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:10,030
know five hour later recordings and it's

1495
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:10,480
just

1496
01:01:16,290 --> 01:01:12,790
Lombardo needs to be more tuned in to

1497
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:16,300
the fact that survivors still want more

1498
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:18,490
answers and residents still want more

1499
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:21,010
answers and they are still confused and

1500
01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:23,290
they they still don't really know what

1501
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:25,780
happened this is not over Lombardo needs

1502
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:27,760
to come forward last thing I want to

1503
01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:29,770
cover with you because it's been one of

1504
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:31,750
my little fascinations from the

1505
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:34,780
beginning the vase with fake flowers

1506
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,170
that paddock buys at Walmart's in brings

1507
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,240
another room and is found in the room by

1508
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:42,160
the police what the heck is that all

1509
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:44,020
about yep that's just one of those

1510
01:01:48,990 --> 01:01:46,270
scratch your head moments that what what

1511
01:01:51,390 --> 01:01:49,000
where does that fit in anywhere you know

1512
01:01:53,850 --> 01:01:51,400
I don't know the you know the to body

1513
01:01:56,540 --> 01:01:53,860
massagers that were plugged up in the

1514
01:01:59,310 --> 01:01:56,550
suitcase you know where does that fit in

1515
01:02:01,530 --> 01:01:59,320
there's just so many questions and we're

1516
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:01,540
never gonna get the answers I'm afraid

1517
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:03,970
cuz the LV MPD controls the narrative of

1518
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:08,170
that hotel and that we know so I just

1519
01:02:13,290 --> 01:02:10,630
don't understand where the rest of the I

1520
01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:13,300
want to see the actual high-resolution

1521
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:14,200
photos

1522
01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:15,790
from that night not just the ones

1523
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:17,470
they're dumping into these PDFs and

1524
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:20,260
they're terrible terrible quality that

1525
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:22,570
the survivors and victims need this

1526
01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:25,510
closure they need something because I

1527
01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:27,040
mean there's people it's almost a year

1528
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:30,670
later and you know emotion is still

1529
01:02:35,730 --> 01:02:33,130
extremely extremely high for a lot of

1530
01:02:38,490 --> 01:02:35,740
people yeah they're gonna see that this

1531
01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:38,500
week at the reunion in Vegas I cannot go

1532
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:41,080
and it makes me sick but they're all

1533
01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:42,610
going out there for the anniversary on

1534
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:44,230
the first and there's a lot of survivors

1535
01:02:49,590 --> 01:02:47,320
going and it's a lot of people need more

1536
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:49,600
that's for sure well it's been 50 over

1537
01:02:54,030 --> 01:02:52,450
50 years since JFK's assassination and

1538
01:02:56,180 --> 01:02:54,040
we're still talking about that something

1539
01:02:58,110 --> 01:02:56,190
tells me that in 50 years from now

1540
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,120
you're still gonna be talking about this

1541
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:00,400
shooting mr. Ron Burgundy

1542
01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:02,320
glad to have finally connected with you

1543
01:03:06,540 --> 01:03:04,180
you're doing amazing work keep it up and

1544
01:03:07,890 --> 01:03:06,550
let's stay in touch thank you so much

1545
01:03:11,010 --> 01:03:07,900
for having me out Jim all right take

1546
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:11,020
care all right thank you again Ron

1547
01:03:14,670 --> 01:03:13,210
Burgundy for giving us your time and for

1548
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:14,680
all the attention that you've given to

1549
01:03:21,090 --> 01:03:17,290
this I know that you do it in tribute to

1550
01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:21,100
the victims and so do we and October

1551
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:22,870
first coming up is the day to remember

1552
01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:27,730
those victims the 58th the 450

1553
01:03:32,820 --> 01:03:30,940
additional that were shot the eight or

1554
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:32,830
nine hundred or so that were injured and

1555
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:37,330
all the others that still are trying to

1556
01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:38,740
get over what they experienced that

1557
01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:42,670
night I was supposed to be there I feel

1558
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:45,160
very fortunate that I was not there but

1559
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:47,200
I feel very close to those that were

1560
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:49,750
being a country music fan myself and

1561
01:03:54,270 --> 01:03:52,450
having interviewed so many of them that

1562
01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:54,280
I I know what they're going through and

1563
01:04:00,810 --> 01:03:57,190
I hope that October 1st is a day that

1564
01:04:02,830 --> 01:04:00,820
helps them heal and move past this

1565
01:04:06,550 --> 01:04:02,840
horrific incident

1566
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:06,560
that took place in Vegas I'm Jim Breslow

1567
01:04:10,330 --> 01:04:08,330
thank you for listening to hidden truth

1568
01:04:12,460 --> 01:04:10,340
Las Vegas shooter will be back next week

1569
01:04:17,140 --> 01:04:12,470
with another episode covering the

1570
01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:17,150
anniversary thank you for listening to

1571
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:19,670
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1572
01:04:24,490 --> 01:04:22,010
Breslow find us at hidden truth show